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Kelly Clarkson talked to actor Mayim Bialik on her podcast, “Mayim Bialik’s Breakdown,” and shared that she’s not likely to get plastic surgery.

Kelly admitted, “I’m gonna look like a total Shar-Pei, like a dog. I’m gonna have every wrinkle in the world on my face. It has nothing to do with me being better than somebody that gets [work done on] their face. I’m afraid of stuff called botulinum toxin.”

Clarkson even explained that she welcomes the opportunity to show off her wrinkles and challenge society’s traditional beauty standards. She said, “I hope I’m still having my talk show and I hope people see this is what it looks like, this is how you look when you get older; it’s fine.”

Kelly also told Bialik that she is determined to stay true to herself, even though it’s not always easy in Hollywood, “Everybody would always try to micromanage everything and try to get you to be something that you’re not. That’s been the hardest challenge.”

She added, “No manager would ever want me to do this. I have no makeup on and my hair in (braids). I’m comfortable and I was potting plants and doing gardening stuff and I had the morning off so I didn’t want to have to get all glammed up.”

However, Kelly does still like to get glammed up now and then. She offered, “I like doing it for work because I think it’s fun, it’s like dress-up when you’re a kid,” she said. “But in my every day, Nah, I’m not gonna get dressed up to go to Target or hang out with my friends. I’m gonna do what I want to do in that moment.”

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